E23 developers to move casino plans to Rensselaer
The company pitching the project is Flaum Management , a commercial real estate company based in Rochester. Jump to the main section. What supporting businesses could possible sprout up along the 9W corridor that would benefit the city? As part of its application, Flaum will be seeking a resolution from the Common Council supporting the project. Of course, a casino also carries potential downsides. I believe if properly run with strict controls, it could really help with our tax base and create new jobs and possibly the idea of not always begging the state for help. This Delaware Avenue neighborhood home owner is all for it.
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The people who own casinos and Walmart are really, really, reaaaaallly, rich. And most of the politicians who allow this to happen are just really rich. The rest of us just need to embrace the suck and keep playing the lotto.
BS needs to take a breath and consider there are other ways of looking at this. The casino in Bethlehem, PA didn't drive away the steel industry. It created jobs, gave a reason for people to visit and spend money, brought arts and entertainment to an area that probably didn't have much going on, and, I'm sure, helped the city with financial problems.
V hit the nail on the head - this would a small casino, isolated from the surrounding neighborhoods, and would expand Albany's tax base while bringing in some tourism that could lead to many other exciting things around the city. Why is it that tacky decor, neon lights and bad font all go hand in hand with casinos? Let's put a little lipstick on this pig and class it up a bit.
Just because they're ramming a casino down our throat doesn't mean it has to be garish, right? This Delaware Avenue neighborhood home owner is all for it. The value of my Del-So home has gone nowhere since I bought it in - I need something - gentrification, casinos, something I have to pay for the kids college and baby needs a new pair of shoes! Personally, I have mixed emotions about Casinos.
I believe they can be a plague upon municipalities when relied on to revitalize an area. Have these communities benefited from Casinos? Then consider Saratoga, a community with Casino gaming, that has banded together to oppose expansion and development of additional gaming.
These facilities do little more than suck the equity out of surrounding communities - like a cancer. Growth for the sake of growth is deadly and it's not smart policy. I'm not as dug in as most people when it comes to Casinos, however.
Given the right plan, the right place, the right community benefits and job packages - and I can be swayed. Heck, plop a Casino on the Rensselaer waterfront, provided it has a great look, community access to the water, and it's a part of the urban fabric - I'd be on board But the "Noonan proposal" in Albany is a non-starter. There could not be a worse location within the immediate area. It's unconscionable that with all the vacant, under-utilized, under-performing land in this city that this Noonan site is even being considered.
Could vehicle access to the site be worse? The only access point is Noonan and Southern Boulevard - a large scale hour development here with an intense traffic generating use will be a nightmare for the area. It's anticipated that this facility will create jobs for neighborhood residents. How will they access the site if not by car? This would seemingly be the only route that services the facility.
First and foremost, no city business will benefit what so ever from a casino at this site. People will come in off the highway, lose their money at the Casino, and drive right back out.
You could not find a more isolated place in the city. We have a comprehensive plan on the books that promotes walk-able dense neighborhoods. We're spending hundreds of thousands to develop a downtown tactical plan. We want to attract development to the downtown, not to the suburban fringe. What supporting businesses could possible sprout up along the 9W corridor that would benefit the city? There are no utilities to support development here. Where will the infrastructure come from?
I hope that taxpayers won't be asked with providing new infrastructure from the source to the end of the pipe when this infrastructure already exists. As mentioned earlier this city has a number of build-ready sites, buildings begging for adaptive reuse, and infrastructure waiting and underutilized. Why clear-cut acres and acres of green space? This is an area bounded by steep ravines and run-off that will find it's way into the Normans Kill.
Wide-scale clear cutting will result in slope destabilization and erosion that could be disastrous. It wasn't too long ago that a rain event contributed to the collapse of slopes along Delmar's Rt. Let's keep this land natural as a buffer between the city, highway, and the industrial port and preserve it for future generations.
Where else could the casino be sited that would be more beneficial to the city residents and businesses? Anytime someone wants to site a transformative business in this city the Common Council and neighborhood associations beat the drum and the only thing that happens is we create another verse in the song of decline and poverty they loves to sing in rounds. Do you have a plan?
If yes, share it! If you don't have a plan, get out of the way and stop complaining. So long as the city doesn't give too much away, this is great. Once the convention center goes in, there will be a connection between this place and downtown. Anyone that's ever tried to stay in a casino's hotel knows how expensive it is. This will be 2 miles from downtown hotels that will reap the benefits and probably create additional service industry jobs.
The City of Albany needs to worry about itself. The residents of Bethlehem love to come into the city and earn a living and then retreat to their bourgeois white haven to call Albany a dump. They can build a fence encircling the Town if they want. If we're going to be having casino gambling in our region, I think this is the best option I've heard of yet. The Albany Southend neighborhood closest to it should be the first people to benefit from the jobs created! That figure does not sound realistic I don't really have an opinion on casinos in general- I don't understand the draw, but I have no problem with people who enjoy them.
I also understand that this region is going to get one anyway, so there's no sense in fighting against that now. I do however feel that it should most definitely not be built in Saratoga, which doesn't need it and doesn't want it.
The Rensselaer site seems to be the best option as far as I can tell. Nowhere around here is as desperate for a shot in the arm than there. Not to mention that it is close to the Amtrak Station, and downtown Albany.
I am not a fan of further promoting sprawl, which this plan most certainly does. This area really has to move beyond the 's version of the American Dream, where everything is as far away from where you live as possible, and you rely on your car for everything.
With that said, I would rather it be built within the City of Albany if the Rensselaer site is ruled out, so at the very least it can benefit from the tax dollars. Albany is a city in decline for decades So we are left with urban decay, block upon block of dejected people living in poverty, likely on some type of government assistance, and we are surrounded by drugs, gangs, and violence Oh yes I have it casino gambling!!!!!
I am giving up listening to the insane replies on this board. Having said that I go on record as saying that this casino, if built on Grandmother's land, will be the final nail in the coffin of this once proud, functional, and beautiful city.
PS please all of you pick up the book The Death and Life of Great American cities and read it, along with a good book on economics and enjoy your happy gambling, at least you'll get a free Rum and Coke while you are donating your paychecks to the Fraum Management Co.
The casino is a gimmick solution to our gimmick economy. A dead end that will in all likelihood generate more problems than the revenues needed to pay for them. What are the estimates for how much additional police, fire, first responder, and other city services read: Perhaps more importantly, what do studies show from other cities that build these things?
Senator into the "potential problems and complications" category. I would have much preferred the redevelopment of the Harriman Campus to bring in tax revenues to the city.
Unfortunately, Cuomo killed that. That redevelopment would have brought in high-end condos, retail, private office space - it would have totally changed Albany's uptown in a positive way. Right now, Crossgates and Wolf Road sucks all of people's spending money out of Albany. Finding a way to bring in major retail to Albany and then using the sales and property tax collections would be a much better way to enrich the city, but I can't see that happening anytime soon.
I absolutely LMAO when I read about the head cop saying how great it was that this tacky dump would create "almost no foot traffic at all". This state is stuck somewhere between and with regards to urban-suburban planning. I am dumbfounded and ashamed. I agree that the Casino will be located far enough from any densely populated area in Albany to minimize any negative effects on city life.
Better that we have it than Rennselear. This casino, combined with encouraging dowtown business development to attract people to downtown, e. The more the merrier. No need for entrance off 9w; have and thruway all tie right in so all the rich downstaters have a place to stop on their way north Having a local voice involved makes me feel slightly better about it as a whole, too. I live within eyesight of this, but believe it can be done so as to minimally impact the surrounding communities face it towards Elsmere hehehe The latter three all increased by 10 percent in communities that allowed gambling.
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Registration is open for the Troy Turkey Trot. The annual Thanksgiving morning race includes a 5k, 10k, walk, and grade school mile The consignment sale -- now in Among the topics in this most recent spin around the Capital Region's online neighborhood: Here's how to do McLaughlin said the partnership didn't specify exactly why they were pulling out of Albany.
She said they did indicate last week's announcement of a shared headquarters between Thruway Authority and the state Department of Transportation nearby the proposed E23 site played a factor. On Tuesday, Jeff West of U. Marx Construction, which owns de Laet's Landing, indicated something was afoot for the acre site on the Hudson River.
Penn National and Cordish Companies had courted the developer for months, but opted instead to focus their energies on a casino proposal in Orange County — a far more lucrative market than the Capital Region. Access to a waterfront. This will give the partnership a chance to rival the multi-modal approach now being touted by Rush Street Gaming and the Galesi Group, which are proposing a casino at the former American Locomotive Co.
For some in Albany, though, the demise of E23, once thought to be a front-runner in the bid for the Capital Region's casino license, is a disappointment and an opportunity lost. McLaughlin said she'll support a casino in Rensselaer over one in Schenectady or East Greenbush, but she's still saddened by the opportunity lost in Albany.
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